tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post6988026580312538686..comments2024-03-27T11:44:15.723-04:00Comments on The Retrogrouch: Carbon Fiber CounterfeitsBrookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12110998345857993287noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-67168860293811558302015-03-16T07:23:44.945-04:002015-03-16T07:23:44.945-04:00That's absolutely true -- and Reynolds still t...That's absolutely true -- and Reynolds still to this day keeps a tight control on their decals and reproductions. It's not a new problem -- but when you're talking about "Reynolds" steel versus some cheaper steel with a fake Reynolds decal, I'd consider it more of a financial issue than a safety one.Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12110998345857993287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-31968839401988147252015-03-15T21:25:44.991-04:002015-03-15T21:25:44.991-04:00There was a problem in the 1980's where fake C...There was a problem in the 1980's where fake Columbus or Reynolds tubing decals were put on frames that did not use that tubing. Reynolds starting putting more control on requests for decals when frames were repainted - thus the " respray " decals. So the counterfeit problem is not only a carbon fiber problem, and not a new problem either.cdostalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12922769689635823167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-79267771845113537112015-02-26T14:01:46.609-05:002015-02-26T14:01:46.609-05:00As I pointed out, I have my doubts about the longe...As I pointed out, I have my doubts about the longevity of CF anyhow -- regardless of what the industry would have us believe. But it seems that the chances of failure would be much higher in the case of one of these knock-offs. Definitely not a risk I'd want to take.Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12110998345857993287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-8864044154473310572015-02-26T12:53:49.977-05:002015-02-26T12:53:49.977-05:00Yeah but isn't carbon fiber notorious for shat...Yeah but isn't carbon fiber notorious for shattering unexpectedly anyway? What's the difference whether you're seriously injured by a real or a fake one? You're still injured. The only difference is your likelihood of collecting any kind of settlement after the fact. Yeah it's a small chance but much bigger than metal. I'm still freaked out they're making airplanes with it for the same reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-10932628374077059112015-02-24T11:19:35.231-05:002015-02-24T11:19:35.231-05:00And that's the thing, exactly -- who do you ho...And that's the thing, exactly -- who do you hold responsible? The fact that the carbon work inside the fork was incomplete is exactly what makes knock-off carbon frames so scary. If some rogue factory is cranking out fakes, they obviously aren't concerned about breaking the laws, why would they be concerned about quality control? They're working "in the dark" essentially, so there's almost no way to track them down if someone gets hurt.<br />Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12110998345857993287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-31232444321082343222015-02-24T10:48:54.958-05:002015-02-24T10:48:54.958-05:00One of the hidden dangers of knockoff carbon frame...One of the hidden dangers of knockoff carbon frames is the potential lack of quality control. A friend of mine purchased a knockoff frame and as he was doing a time trial the front fork shattered. He broke his top vertabrae but luckily it did not shift an paralyze him or cut an artery. On examination of the failure the inside carbon work was incomplete. If he had been severely injured there was no one to hold liable. All the mainstream manufactures cannot afford to skimp on quality control or they would be out of business.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16955243328736984658noreply@blogger.com