tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post4457236183673650337..comments2024-03-28T11:56:48.304-04:00Comments on The Retrogrouch: Deore: The First Touring GruppoBrookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12110998345857993287noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-36501298959723141202021-06-04T02:47:53.640-04:002021-06-04T02:47:53.640-04:00it's called deerhead because it has a deerhead...it's called deerhead because it has a deerhead on itclassicwrenchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10599681538647872538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-81827298820582439252021-06-04T02:47:26.032-04:002021-06-04T02:47:26.032-04:00Can confirm 600EX cantis exist btw. I saw a pair c...Can confirm 600EX cantis exist btw. I saw a pair come through the shop once!classicwrenchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10599681538647872538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-12784777639286627362021-05-05T23:13:03.881-04:002021-05-05T23:13:03.881-04:00I live in Australia and just picked up (was on its...I live in Australia and just picked up (was on its way to the dump) a Shogun "Touring 2001" with a full first gen groupset. It was pretty dirty but the parts looked pretty good, the frame seemed to be in the ballpark sizewise and I thought I'd clean it up and see what's what. First disappointment, stuck seatpost and I've been down this road before. It's a "mangaloy" frames so not terrible, not super. Next thought was to salvage the group (the crank is pretty cool) so.. The RD was pretty much frozen. I took it off and cleaned it and lubed it up. Now the cage spring does not have enough force/pressure to keep the cage tight. It almost seems like the spring needs to be wound up but I don't want to force it or break it. Help!<br />And, any idea what one of these groups would be worth? I know, hard to say, depends on the buyer, etc. but? I've never seen one and I've been around bikes a long time.ChrisShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05199957309191595327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-75062456805590517062019-08-21T14:18:43.809-04:002019-08-21T14:18:43.809-04:00recently (4/2019) acquired a 1984 Lotus Eclair wit...recently (4/2019) acquired a 1984 Lotus Eclair with full Deore "Grouppo" including the "DynaDrive" sealed bearing pedals...It looked like it was ridden hard for a few years, then stored. Still had original irc tires and held air. Had to jam grease and oil into the pedals to lube the bearings which were really stiff....they've come back to life after a couple hundred miles on the road. I wouldn't describe the rear derailliuer as quiet though...gives a very solid "clunk" when changing gears, like shutting an old fashioned ice box or a walk in freezer. Very functional though. Love itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-24698641637797300452018-12-13T08:50:24.984-05:002018-12-13T08:50:24.984-05:00very interesting reading ;)
Does anyone know what ...very interesting reading ;)<br />Does anyone know what the origins of the 'Deerhead', 'Deore' and XT names are? I read somewhere that Deore derives from the word D'Oro meaning goldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-61548292855069973342015-02-17T01:29:22.111-05:002015-02-17T01:29:22.111-05:00Maybe I am the only living fan of the Deore Dyna D...Maybe I am the only living fan of the Deore Dyna Drive platform pedal.<br /><br />Look at my bike and you see the mismatched mish mash of parts from various manufacturers that you describe above and you will probably also make some insightful observations about my quirky personality in the process.<br /><br />10 years ago I bought a mint condition 1982 Woodrup. It is the bike I wish I would have had in 1982.<br /><br />What first caught my eye on the bike were the Campy high flange hubs and the titanium Huret Duopar derailleur. I was unfamiliar with the Deore AX crankset (with 600AX pedals) but I figured that I would quickly trade it out for a French triple. While I was searching for a new crank I read up on Deore history and bought a set of Deore AX pedals (which are still easy to find).<br /><br />The Deore AX pedal may now be my favorite thing about my Woodrup. I am an advocate of packing light no matter what my mode of travel and step 1 in packing light is to minimize the number of shoes you take with you. Preferably the only pair you need is the pair you have on.<br /><br />I have never been a fan of bicycle shoes, especially for touring. The Deore AX pedal provides a large flat rigid platform for your foot and has studs in the center of the platform that bite into the sole of whatever shoe you are wearing. It get's you close to the benefits of a rigid bike shoe with a cleat but when you step off your bike you can be wearing a light, comfortable and attractive walking shoe with a thin sole.<br /><br />I probably would have never toured with an AX pedal because it is too exotic and a pedal failure would have introduced extreme complications on a trip. But now that I am a fair weather weekend rider and occasional commuter I enjoy the vintage and exotic components.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16210733033542755308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-60910198967400841752014-07-03T20:23:11.286-04:002014-07-03T20:23:11.286-04:00By '88, the focus of Deore had shifted more to...By '88, the focus of Deore had shifted more to mountain bikes, though, as you pointed out, the derailleurs were sometimes seen on road bikes. Road touring bikes were getting downright rare by '88. I've heard stories that some shops were still selling leftover '85s by then! That hatch plate thing was on a lot of Shimano's derailleurs in the late 70s and early 80s -- then it just quietly disappeared. No idea why. Thanks for writing!Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12110998345857993287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-2177987845123093172014-07-03T19:03:27.247-04:002014-07-03T19:03:27.247-04:00My 1988 Panasonic tourer came with, as you said, D...My 1988 Panasonic tourer came with, as you said, Deore deraillers only. The rest was a mish-mash of other ungrouped Shimano parts. I've swapped out every other part except for the crankset the front shifter, and the rear brake lever because they were kinda crappy to be honest (especially the canti brakes, yikes). I'm not sure whether the 1988 Deore set was supposed to be mountain bike specific, but it works very well with an 8 speed cluster on a tourer. My later model also doesn't have the hatch-plate. The 600 arabesque on my go fast has one though. Any idea why they stopped doing that? It's a great idea.<br />alfredUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05124810325800715371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-31920929539517035952014-07-03T10:29:19.934-04:002014-07-03T10:29:19.934-04:00Shimano's LX line is (or, I should say, was) a...Shimano's LX line is (or, I should say, was) an OK "touring" line, but it seems like it's only available to the European market last time I was looking at it. And it's gone down the same garish road the other lines have traveled.<br />The Deore higher-end derailleurs seem a little spindly looking, especially for the price they want for 'em. <br /><br />I am building up a touring-ish bike right now, and you're right: it's been a scavenger hunt for good parts for it. I just won a nice set of Takagi cranks off of the 'Bay that will polish up pretty good. <br />I just can't talk myself into ugly "mountain bike" cranks that are out there now, and the road cranks aren't right, either. <br /><br />Seems a shame that nobody makes a classy looking line of components that aren't as expensive as VO or (holy crap look at those prices) Herse for cranks, or... who even makes nice looking modern derailleurs now, for any price (as you've previously discussed)? The best you can hope for is "unobtrusive". To be honest, I don't mind some modern stuff as much as I let on, I just don't want it to look crappy.<br />Ahaha, it occurs to me that this is an oft-discussed topic. Hot-button issue for grouches! <br /><br />WolfN/Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14710395292374599493noreply@blogger.com