tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post6993217502825260581..comments2024-03-27T11:44:15.723-04:00Comments on The Retrogrouch: Wheelbuilding Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12110998345857993287noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-54249082130669646352017-03-03T08:44:12.760-05:002017-03-03T08:44:12.760-05:00I have a Keith Lippy tandem that I put a Dura Ace ...I have a Keith Lippy tandem that I put a Dura Ace 7400 series cassette hub on when I converted it to 9-speed. I switched to a Velo Orange hub after cracking two hub shells in the same location, where the diameter changes near the center of the barrel. Obviously, there's a stress riser there that keeps the design from being suitable for the increased stresses of tandem use. The wheels were laced cross-3.<br /><br />I have wondered about the logic behind the modern practice of radial spokes on the drive side, opposite of what weight weenies were asking for back in the day. It seems that this would increase the torsional stress on the hub shell. Perhaps the bodies have been beefed up, allowing the radial spoking to help to reduce tension on the dished side. One thing that modern, large-barrel hub designs tend to ignore is that increased volume inside the hub results in more expansion and contraction of the air inside. This could be a problem if the only path to equalize pressure is through the bearings, as this can result in contaminents being sucked in.<br /><br />The Velo Orange hubs are a fantastic deal--half price at $70. Quality and features are tops, especially as a touring hub. You can remove the cassette on the road without using any tools!Steve Barnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05141738452735566462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-12364206240939542552017-03-01T16:42:12.035-05:002017-03-01T16:42:12.035-05:00Yeah - I've always been really hesitant to do ...Yeah - I've always been really hesitant to do radial spoking because I worried about cracking the hub flange. The force pulling straight out radially is too much for a lot of hubs. But cracking one the way you describe is a new one on me! Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12110998345857993287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-22384176224132105882017-03-01T15:25:34.346-05:002017-03-01T15:25:34.346-05:00Hi,
Nice writing, we have very similar interests.
...Hi,<br />Nice writing, we have very similar interests.<br /><br />I just want to comment on building wheels with mixed patterns. My modern race bike has a crazy radial on the drive side and 2x on non-drive. When I needed a new rear wheel for my old racer now fixed daily driver, I decided to do the same using my 1st gen Dura Ace low-flange to some random tubular rims I had around. About 1500 miles of commuting later, I began hear an odd click when I pushed hard. It took a while but I finally discovered that I had cracked the hub across the center, starting at the oil hole and following the Shimano engraving. A disgraceful mistreatment of a beautiful hub.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-4924679089385202832017-02-25T16:45:05.797-05:002017-02-25T16:45:05.797-05:00I just prefer traditional wheels SO MUCH MORE than...I just prefer traditional wheels SO MUCH MORE than the pre-built wheels that are available today! It's just such a shame that so many companies have forgotten that people still want to build wheels - getting suitable components keeps getting harder (I know that rims and hubs are still out there - but not like there used to be).Brookshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12110998345857993287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-66114732308913938962017-02-25T15:23:23.722-05:002017-02-25T15:23:23.722-05:00Not retro grouch! Hand built wheels make sense fr...Not retro grouch! Hand built wheels make sense from a performance and value standpoint, today.Conradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09297850009729752883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-87654029462971646132017-02-23T16:03:24.275-05:002017-02-23T16:03:24.275-05:00You are right: wheelbuilding is a relaxing activit...You are right: wheelbuilding is a relaxing activity. Meditation is hard because it's difficult to stop thinking about something, but activities like lacing a wheel and truing it demands a steady focus on the task for a long time. That is a good way to get rid of other thoughts and to keep living the moment. The very definition of Zen, if you ask me.<br /><br />Since I'm a luthier, I'm used to build my own jigs. That's why I decided not to spend my (scarce) money on a truing stand and to simply make myself one. Here it is: https://www.instructables.com/id/Cheap-Bike-Wheel-Truing-Stand/<br /><br />What I DID bought was a set of beaten-up rims to practice my wheelbuilding skills before attempting any work on a 'real' one. I laced & dismantled them about 10 times before truing, and after I did 5 sucessfull ones I build and trued the wheels of my bike. Practicing with a 'dummy' is something I can recommend to anyone.Alexander Lópezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08517986861000324855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-24438805999116830962017-02-23T09:20:52.337-05:002017-02-23T09:20:52.337-05:00Nice! Those look really classy, can't wait to...Nice! Those look really classy, can't wait to see what they're going on.<br /><br />Wolf.N/Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14710395292374599493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-37651248726248233442017-02-22T21:24:27.752-05:002017-02-22T21:24:27.752-05:00Thanks for sharing this fittingly retrogrouch proj...Thanks for sharing this fittingly retrogrouch project.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-31468282260314109762017-02-22T18:49:40.846-05:002017-02-22T18:49:40.846-05:00Yes, handbuilt bike wheels are a work of art. And ...Yes, handbuilt bike wheels are a work of art. And for a nice, light set of tubulars, you can hardly do better--with current or vintage parts--than with the components you've chosen!Justine Valinottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10852069587181432102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-91242332215714991602017-02-22T13:32:25.327-05:002017-02-22T13:32:25.327-05:00Darn! I forgot what a shine my nubs should have. S...Darn! I forgot what a shine my nubs should have. Still a mystery how such a thing as a wheel can be put together in a shed from a hundred and twenty or so bits...Colinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01667939789517989280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8492685525705691186.post-66619734171302132722017-02-22T12:42:04.818-05:002017-02-22T12:42:04.818-05:00Very pretty!
I think a hand laced bicycle wheel us...Very pretty!<br />I think a hand laced bicycle wheel using fine components is artwork, I never tire of looking at them or (even better) riding on them.<br />Thanks for the post.<br /><br />Randy RRandy Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10859292292401837535noreply@blogger.com